C0S site links to Anonymous video claims stalking

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C0S site links to Anonymous video claims stalking

I believe this is a CoS blog site. (So don't visit if you don't like going to their sites.) There is a post that is claiming that a member of Anonymous stalked a Scientologist. I don't quite get that from the video although the Scientologist did seem to not want to be communicating with this protestor.
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LOL, I have an entire section to myself in that blog! *waves*
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:05 am

I'm going to have to check that out when I'm in the need of some comedy.
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:51 pm

She's not even trying to walk away.


They aren't allowed to view anti-Scientology sites that's why she has no clue what to say.
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:58 pm

Indeed. I find the claim of being stalked a bit ridiculous. It is funny, too how she doesn't even know what was on this website she supposedly saw - even though she claims to have read something on the site. Really, my heart breaks for this woman. She is doing what she thinks is the right thing. :(
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Post Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:28 pm

Re: C0S site links to Anonymous video claims stalking

invisible wrote:I believe this is a CoS blog site. (So don't visit if you don't like going to their sites.) There is a post that is claiming that a member of Anonymous stalked a Scientologist. I don't quite get that from the video although the Scientologist did seem to not want to be communicating with this protestor.


It's not a CofS site, though the I suppose owner has been accused of being an OSA op or cult apologist often enough. The blog is run by Bernie, an Ex who is moderately critical of both CofS and the Anti-CofS/Anti-Cult movement - the Alt.Religion.Scientology newsgroup in particular, since that was the biggest gathering of critics and critical information re Scn on the web when he first started posting ten years ago or so.

His home page is http://bernie.cncfamily.com/. It was one of the first sites I read when I was getting out back then.
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Tru2form wrote:LOL, I have an entire section to myself in that blog! *waves*


Jenna gets mentioned as well: http://anotherlookatscientology2.blogsp ... abel/Babes
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LOL, I have an entire section to myself in that blog! *waves*


You should try posting a comment under one of the posts about you. Good roads and good weather maybe, as her blog does seem just slightly lacking in any comments anywhere.
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Everfree,

I appologize in advance, in making the following statements, that I do not know you or "Bernie", and hope that my communication is not disrespectful.

The "anotherlookatScientology" web site. Again, I don't know Bernie, and he may very well be an ex, but his web site and writings mirror, including some exact wordings, of a snail mail campaign the COS ran against the AAC (Advanced Ability Center, the former "brand x" of scientology set up and ran by David Mayo, the man LRH apointed to the position of Snr C/S Int, and who personally audited LRH and helped develop OT V.).

It may have been that Bernie read our stuff and liked it, so is using it, so if so I appologize. But I saw and know enough of how OSA works to be paranoid.

One further example. After Mayo was ousted, Ray Mitthof (sp?) was made Senior CS Int.

David Mayo started up the AAC and was booming, he was expanding rapidly, and the church was contracting rapidly, this was mid 80s. We who were in the SO and had real statistical data, feared that the church would go under.

A super confidential project was executed. Bob Mithoff, Ray's brother, made a public departure from Scientology, hooking up with David Mayo.

Mayo and the AAC were exstatic, feeling they had scored a major victory, the BROTHER of the new SNR C/S Int was now with them! They had celebrity status, and an inside track into the church.

Public Scientologists were shocked and enraged, some personally retaliated against Bob, others were goaded by his handlers to do so, making his defection all the more convincing.

Scientology was receiving daily reports from Bob, everything from body counts ... statistics ... financial reports ... mailing lists ... legal documents ... strategies ... insider corporate details from AAC so that they could disrupt plans.

I am sorry, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck, and tastes like Peking Duck, it quite probably is a duck.

Scientology absolutely has trolling web sites out there to spread their own messages to the enemy, disrupt and cause confusion to the enemy.

Scientology also wants to know who is still pretending to be a Scientologist while reading all the stuff on the net. It probably conclusively knows that no one who has read all this stuff and is in contact with the real information, can be a "real Scientologist" on the bridge.
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outlander wrote:I am sorry, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck, and tastes like Peking Duck, it quite probably is a duck.


No offense taken, I'm not Bernie and don't know him, just know some of the back history. Like I said, he has been accused of being an OSA op and cult apologist many many times. I happen to think that despite his criticism of the critics -- in fact, because of it -- his site can be useful for Scnists getting out of CofS.

I think that because when I was getting out, I read every page of his site. Because he was willing to "look at both sides", at the time I found his criticism to be especially potent - far, far more creditable than a.r.s for instance which was so full of vitriol I didn't care for reading it.

Nowadays I roll my eyes and would heavily debate a lot of his points, but I still think it makes a good transition point for CofSers who may be testing the waters on the outside, even if they're fairly indoctrinated.

I don't think it's an op because it's been going on so long, and while the CofS may have once been capable of such sophistication as the infiltration you describe, nothing the CofS has done in relation to the internet in general has shown me that they are still so capable.

When he put up his page, the CofSes general "handling" for the internet was to try to remove the a.r.s. newsgroup, fill it with sporgeries, and put up spam pages. I just don't see them putting up a site that is even remotely critical of CofS, especially not at that time. But I'll allow that I could be wrong. ;-)

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